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[...]anscheinend bessere Online Anbindung [...]

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Ich glaub nicht das Sony sich solche Server wie MS mit der X1 und vor allem in der Masse leisten kann wenn sie kein Geld fürs Online Gaming verlangen.
Das mit dem PSN Plus wo man wie bei xBL zahlt und dann aber sogar spiele wie sleeping dogs umsonst bekommt ist zwar richtig cool aber davon allein wird sich Sony wohl auch keine besseren Server leisten können. Da bin ich eh mal gespannt mit Gaikai und wie das mit Servern wie den aktuellen funktionieren wird.

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Another way of looking at the Xbox One and PS4, though, is their power relative to their predecessors. In terms of raw, synthetic performance, the Xbox 360 could churn out around 300 gigaflops; the PS3 was around 400 gigaflops. The Xbox One and PS4, however, should both be above two teraflops — about six times more powerful than their predecessors. Remember, the output resolution (1920×1080) is unlikely to change — so, with six times more power, we’re looking at a significant improvement to image quality.

Using teraflops as a stand-in for real-world performance, though, to quote our hardware analyst Joel Hruska, is like “giving the fuel efficiency of a car going downhill with an 80 mph tailwind on helium-inflated tires.” What it ultimately comes down to is how efficiently developers use the hardware — and in that regard, we have high hopes. With the shift to x86, and a GPU architecture (AMD’s GCN) that’s well known, developers will be able to hit the ground running. Compare this to the Cell CPUs at the heart of the Xbox 360 and PS3, which took years for developers to fully understand.
[...] real-world performance differences will probably come down to how well the consoles make use of those eight CPU cores, GPU offloading, and differences in the memory subsystem. It’s also important to bear in mind that a huge speed-up is available when developing games for a fixed platform with known performance/latency characteristics. [...] Likewise, games will probably look better on consoles for a few years, and then PCs will probably pull back ahead.

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When you have an operating system designed to run quietly in the background and consume as little CPU and RAM as possible, much faster and unified RAM than PC, the ability to milk every last drop of power out of every component because you do not have to make your software compatible across a wide range of CPUs and GPUs, and the ability for your CPU and GPU to both assist each other with render operations and computing without taking a bandwidth hit, you end up having to buy a PC that would be considerably more expensive than a PS4 will likely be in order to get the same level of performance. There is no doubt that you could spend a small fortune and assemble a PC that would have the hardware capabilities to blow PS4 out of the water, even with these limitations. However, when it comes to bang for your buck, PS4 does easily provide a better hardware value for gaming than an equally priced PC would.

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Digital Foundry: Let's talk about next-gen console. What's your take on the general design in terms of CPU and graphics processing power?

Oles Shishkovstov: We are talking PS4, right? I am very excited about both CPU and GPU. Jaguar is a pretty well-balanced out-of-order core and there are eight of them inside. I always wanted a lot of relatively-low-power cores instead of single super-high-performance one, because it's easier to simply parallelise something instead of changing core-algorithms or chasing every cycle inside critical code segment (not that we don't do that, but very often we can avoid it).

Many beefier cores would be even better, but then we'll be left without a GPU! With regards the graphics core, it's great, simply great. It's a modern-age high-performance compute device with unified memory and multiple compute-contexts. The possibilities of CPU-GPU-CPU communication are endless, we can easily expect games doing, for example, AI pathfinding/route planning executing on GPU to become a common thing.

Digital Foundry: To what extent is the 8GB of GDDR5 in the PlayStation 3 a game-changer? What implications does that have for PC, where even the standard GTX 680 ships with just 2GB of GDDR5?

Oles Shishkovstov: RAM is really, really important for games, but all of it actually being useful depends on available CPU-side bandwidth and latency to the external storage device. I think that they put slightly more RAM than necessary for truly next-generation games this time, but considering the past history of Sony stealing significant percentage of RAM from developers for OS needs - that may be exactly the right amount!


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Digital Foundry: Do you think that the relatively low-power CPUs in the next-gen consoles (compared to PC, at least) will see a more concerted push to getting more out of GPU Compute?

Oles Shishkovstov: No, you just cannot compare consoles to PC directly. Consoles could do at least 2x what a comparable PC can due to the fixed platform and low-level access to hardware.

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Sony und der PS wurde schon so oft das Ende vorausgesagt, dass man nur noch sagen kann, dass Totgesagte länger leben.

Zitat von »Renderwolf«

Stimmt! Sony ist schon gefühlte Zehn Jahre dem Untergang geweiht und lebt wie eh und je!

Zitat von »Nordlicht«

Ob der Sony Dienst dann bei der kommenden Generation weiterhin kostenlos bleibt sei dahingestellt.

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@Chefkoch: Beachte bitte das die PS3 eine der wenigen zuverlässigen Geldquellen war in den letzten Jahren innerhalb des Konzerns. Es ist keines Falls so dass es der Playstation schlecht geht, sondern vor den anderen Abteilungen von Sony.